Is Ormal Noldor, Sindar or Silvan/Nandor?

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Gilrohir Arncelevon
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Is Ormal Noldor, Sindar or Silvan/Nandor?

Post by Gilrohir Arncelevon » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:17 pm

To some extent its a rather irrelevant question, but what do people think? It seems unlikely Ormal would be a silvan/nandor elf given his focus on crafting - the description of him states "no wood elves are as devoted to the art of crafting as he is". Now this could be interpreted as indicating he is a wood elf, but unusual for his interest in crafting OR that he is not a wood elf, depending on how you read it.

He could be Sindar as a number of Sindar lived amongst the silvan/nandor elves in Mirkwood (Thranduil and Legolas to name two). But I'm not sure the Sindar were particularly known for crafting (other than shipbuilding in the case of the elves of the Grey Havens). It was the Noldor who were obsessed with crafting.

We know Ormal studied under Celebrimbor in Eregion, which might again suggest he is of Noldorin descent.

What do others think? I sense that Irime is Noldor, so maybe other Noldor also lived amongst the elves of Mirkwood?

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Re: Is Ormal Noldor, Sindar or Silvan/Nandor?

Post by Otaku-sempai » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:40 pm

Ormal is a Quenya name: the southern of the two Lamps of the Valar. That suggests that the Elf Ormal is at least Sinda, if not Noldo. Of course I am only speculating, but if I had to choose, I would say Sinda.
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Re: Is Ormal Noldor, Sindar or Silvan/Nandor?

Post by Artaxastra » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:34 pm

I ran him as Noldor. It made sense to me given his name, and also given that he'd studied in Eregion. I had him be an apprentice boy when Ost-in-Edhil fell, and that his secret shame is that he ran when the minions of Sauron came for Master Celebrimbor. Which of course he should have, as Celebrimbor would never have wanted a boy to die for him in his hopeless battle. But Ormal still carries that shame, and it's a way that the Shadow tries to reach him, and might have succeeded if not for the dauntless PC wood elf who was now studying with him!

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