A Gondor book?

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A Gondor book?

Post by PhilOfCalth » Mon May 22, 2017 8:52 pm

I know that we have access to Men of Minas Tirith, in the "Adventurer’s Companion" supplement. I was wondering if there was ever any talk about doing a whole Gondor Supplement? I'd particularly be interested if it included some information on Mordor.

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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Otaku-sempai » Mon May 22, 2017 9:25 pm

We don't have any concrete information on a Gondor sourcebook yet but it's only a matter of time, don'tcha think? I would expect such a book to cover Mordor as well and maybe Umbar.
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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Grey Seer » Mon May 22, 2017 11:42 pm

I would be very disappointed if they never did a Gondor supplement
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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Turin » Tue May 23, 2017 1:34 am

Personally I would love just a straight up Gondor source book, with lots of information on western Gondor as well. Then a separate source books for Mordor and Umbar (Including the Harad and South). I think there is enough material there for three source books!

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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Grey Seer » Tue May 23, 2017 1:37 am

Turin wrote:
Tue May 23, 2017 1:34 am
Personally I would love just a straight up Gondor source book, with lots of information on western Gondor as well. Then a separate source books for Mordor and Umbar (Including the Harad and South). I think there is enough material there for three source books!
Agreed. I think at a minimum we will see a Gondor source book and an Adventure book. Mordor would have a source book and adventure book too. I suspect 4 books minimum.
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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Otaku-sempai » Tue May 23, 2017 3:25 am

Turin wrote:
Tue May 23, 2017 1:34 am
Personally I would love just a straight up Gondor source book, with lots of information on western Gondor as well. Then a separate source books for Mordor and Umbar (Including the Harad and South). I think there is enough material there for three source books!
Well, I have a hard time imagining an Heroic Culture for a Mordor sourcebook; the Variags of Khand were pretty strongly devoted to Sauron and Morgoth, and I'm not sure that the slaves of Nurn constitute a culture. On the other hand, a single book that focuses not only on Mordor, but Umbar and Harad offers several possibilities. If the Dunlendings can be written up as an Heroic Culture then why not the Haradrim and other Southrons? The Corsairs of Umbar or the Black Númenóreans might be more of a stretch.

A Gondor sourcebook can give us not only the Men of Minas Tirith (which we already have via the Adventurer's Companion) but also the Men of the Southern Fiefs (Anfalas, Pinnath Gelin and Lamedon) and Belfalas. I'm sure that many of us would look forward to material on Dol Amroth, Pelargir and other locations of interest. And who wouldn't want a chance to have a Knight of Dol Amroth or a Ranger of Ithilien? There is plenty to focus on in Gondor without looking beyond the Mountains of Shadow or Harondor.
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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Turin » Tue May 23, 2017 5:22 am

Otaku-sempai wrote:
Tue May 23, 2017 3:25 am
Well, I have a hard time imagining an Heroic Culture for a Mordor sourcebook; the Variags of Khand were pretty strongly devoted to Sauron and Morgoth, and I'm not sure that the slaves of Nurn constitute a culture. On the other hand, a single book that focuses not only on Mordor, but Umbar and Harad offers several possibilities. If the Dunlendings can be written up as an Heroic Culture then why not the Haradrim and other Southrons? The Corsairs of Umbar or the Black Númenóreans might be more of a stretch.
I wouldn't suggest there be any Heroic Cultures in the Mordor source book, unless that is where you put the Rangers of Ithilien. I am fine with it working just like The Heart of the Wild and not have a new culture but a section of Monsters of Mordor.

I can see there being options for Haradrim and Southrons, but would prefer them in a separate book then coupled into Mordor.

I also agree that there should be a number of cultures available in Gondor.

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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Otaku-sempai » Tue May 23, 2017 7:36 am

Turin wrote:
Tue May 23, 2017 5:22 am
I wouldn't suggest there be any Heroic Cultures in the Mordor source book, unless that is where you put the Rangers of Ithilien. I am fine with it working just like The Heart of the Wild and not have a new culture but a section of Monsters of Mordor.
To be fair, The Heart of the Wild did introduce a pair of variant cultures, the Wayward Elves and the Wild Hobbits of the Anduin Vales, both of which got full work-ups later (in the Adventurer's Companion). That is one reason why I support the idea of a more comprehensive sourcebook for Mordor that includes Umbar and the more southern lands.
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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Otaku-sempai » Tue May 23, 2017 7:36 am

Oops! Double post. Move along; nothing to see here.
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Re: A Gondor book?

Post by Turin » Tue May 23, 2017 9:00 am

Otaku-sempai wrote:
Tue May 23, 2017 7:36 am
To be fair, The Heart of the Wild did introduce a pair of variant cultures, the Wayward Elves and the Wild Hobbits of the Anduin Vales, both of which got full work-ups later (in the Adventurer's Companion). That is one reason why I support the idea of a more comprehensive sourcebook for Mordor that includes Umbar and the more southern lands.
Yes they did introduce them and I prefer how it wasn't till Adventurer's Companion that we received the full write up. I think there is enough just in Mordor to fill one source book and would rather they do a more comprehensive one rather then splitting the space with Umbar and Harad, which could/should fill a whole source book also.

My druthers would be to have an Adventurer's Companion 2 for the new cultures introduced in upcoming source books to be fleshed out. Riders IMO was a different beast with all the rules around horses (Combat and Training) that they needed to do a full write up in the source book.

So in short I want Six books instead of four! (Counting adventure books) :twisted:

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