AiME errata (price lists)

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Daisho
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AiME errata (price lists)

Post by Daisho » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:08 pm

I was noticing on the price lists there are some inconsistencies. Is there an errata anywhere?

(For example: rations are 120c, sealing wax is 120c, a tinderbox is 120c - it looks as though they should be expressed silver if nothing else, which would show them as 10s each - which seems pretty steep for any of these goods)

(As well, a Travellers Inn per night is 75c, but a Travellers Inn (fancy) is 2s. As 2s is only 24c, it raised my eyebrow).

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Re: AiME errata (price lists)

Post by Otaku-sempai » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:59 pm

Yes, those cited expressions in copper pieces are awkward and should be given as silver pennies.

The price for a one-night stay at a traveler's inn (fancy) is a straightforward conversion from the D&D price list for a stay at a wealthy inn (2 gp converted to 2s). A one-night stay at an average traveler's inn should probably be between 10 copper and 1 silver penny.

There are a couple of lists that we can add from the Lake-town Sourcebook (page 13) for TOR:

Customary Wereguild for the Dead under the laws of Dale
Wereguild for a common man: 200s
Wereguild for a landless noble: 600s
Wereguild for a thane: 1200s

Market Prices
1 old, or half-starved pony: 3s~4s
1 healthy pony: 8s~10s
1 draught horse*: 10s~20s
1 riding horse: 1g
1 war horse: 2g~4g
1 cow: 8s
1 pig: 2s
1 sheep: 1s
2 chickens: 1c

A table in Horse-lords of Rohan (page 133) for TOR includes prices for various types of horse. Note that prices for any horse better than a draught horse tend to be higher in Rohan. Here are stats for mounts and pack-animals commonly found in Middle-earth.

* A draught horse is a small horse used to pull carts. A D&D draft horse would be a heavy draught horse (work horse; probably dray in Rohan); a great horse bred for hauling very heavy loads, usually trained to be part of a dray team. Its price might be 20s~25s.
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Re: AiME errata (price lists)

Post by Anarfin » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:33 pm

Errata in LMG p.155 changes price of rations from 120c to 60c per day

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Re: AiME errata (price lists)

Post by Otaku-sempai » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:39 pm

Anarfin wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:33 pm
Errata in LMG p.155 changes price of rations from 120c to 60c per day
Okay, but isn't even that better expressed as 5s per day?
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Re: AiME errata (price lists)

Post by ThrorII » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:42 am

Otaku-sempai wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:39 pm
Anarfin wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:33 pm
Errata in LMG p.155 changes price of rations from 120c to 60c per day
Okay, but isn't even that better expressed as 5s per day?
I've covered this before. I think those cp prices over 12c need to be reduced by a factor of 20. So those 120c rations should be 6c. Please note that this is actually equal to the standard 5sp D&D 5e cost (1/2 gold piece, or in AiMe, 1/2 a silver piece....since 1 D&D gp = 1 AiMe sp).
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Re: AiME errata (price lists)

Post by Anarfin » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:35 am

Otaku-sempai wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:39 pm
Anarfin wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:33 pm
Errata in LMG p.155 changes price of rations from 120c to 60c per day
Okay, but isn't even that better expressed as 5s per day?
Way better, but Daisho was asking about errata, so I mentioned that this particular price was changed (even if 60cp/5sp per day is still daylight robbery).
I agree that prices should be expressed in pennies, and that most of the prices in cp over 10 should be reduced by a factor of 20, as Thror said (only Bill Ferny would not agree ;) )

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Re: AiME errata (price lists)

Post by Otaku-sempai » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:43 pm

Anarfin wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:35 am
Way better, but Daisho was asking about errata, so I mentioned that this particular price was changed (even if 60cp/5sp per day is still daylight robbery).
I agree that prices should be expressed in pennies, and that most of the prices in cp over 10 should be reduced by a factor of 20, as Thror said (only Bill Ferny would not agree ;) )
Yes, I'm sure that many prices are too high, especially on many of the common, every day items. They are still a huge improvement (for the most part) over the over-inflated D&D equipment prices. It's also interesting to compare the prices here to the equipment tables for Middle-earth Role Playing (MERP). MERP also used more coinage, based on the decimal system:

1 mithril piece (mp) = 100 gold pieces (gp)
1 gold piece (gp) = 10 silver pieces (sp)
1 silver piece (sp) = 10 bronze pieces (bp)
1 bronze piece (bp) = 10 copper pieces (cp)
1 copper piece (cp) = 10 tin pieces (tp)

That was perhaps a bit too much. There is the option of using the more abstract system presented in The One Ring that avoids using coins altogether for everyday purchases.
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